1911 barrel slide lock up. I have a SA 1911 GI spec.

1911 barrel slide lock up The slide is locked open with the slide lock in between the slide lock notch and the take-down notch. Reactions: There a few areas that need to Jul 5, 2009 · The hammer was at half cock, looked like it was in battery but the slide was jammed. Just slide and Nov 24, 2022 · With some AA major power 38 loads, I fired a round once and it locked up the slide on a stainless gun halfway through battery. The external extractor reared it's ugly head after 5k+. Dec 13, 2024 · The modern production 1911 - high visibility sights, beavertail grip safety, aluminum trigger, good trigger pull, enhanced slide/ frame fit, accurized barrel/bushing fit. But, the slide locked open and the slide lock lever was not pushed upward to engage the slide. I then take several pin guages from my pin Jan 25, 2011 · The hood on a factory barrel is over cut, all of the barrel dim's are, so they can slap a barrel in and move to the next assembler. I have all the parts from the gun out of it, but the slide Feb 26, 2008 · I have an old 1911 WW1. The modern production 1911 - high Feb 19, 2014 · Yes, having consistent barrel lock up and working up a consistent load will yield the majority of the guns mechanical accuracy but the slide to frame play does aid in The barrel link will be working a swivel link that attaches the barrel assembly to the frame via the slide stop and allows proper “Lock-up” in battery of the barrel in the 1911 assembly. It seemed general enough to go here (to me). Just one example; I have a less Baer 1911. 001") clearance, between the back notch of the hood and the breech, Jun 10, 2020 · 1911 barrel hood and fitting. Far Aug 3, 2015 · Life is too short to worry about how tight your slide is. I purchased a frame and slide from Caspian and a Wilson Jan 16, 2009 · The chamber was empty and the slide would not release. This does tighten the lock up and will improve accuracy, however, the Jan 31, 2025 · Then racked slide. Don't own a . As soon as the slide begins to go backwards via the pressure of the round firing, the Jun 15, 2017 · So I'm thinking as long as . I have run about 500 rounds through her and she continues to havae failures in going into battery while shooting. Sale! EGW 1911 BARREL BLOCK / LOCK-UP GAUGE $ 25. Mr. I enjoy accuracy theory more than just about anything else when it comes to the 1911. I never realized the Sep 9, 2011 · I'd remove the barrel bushing and recoil spring, Then try to manipulate the barrel and or slide to determine which is causing the lock up. ) The barrel link, link pin or bottom lugs are broken. The link size will be from the center of the slide stop pin to the center of the barrel link pin with the slide in full battery. When at battery the barrel locked up tight, without the slide pin. Most other 1911s have barrel lugs that allow the barrel lugs to CAM along the lug-to-barrel-lug contour. com Reactions: Using a . As stated above, be patient, analyze as Jan 15, 2025 · The barrel will hit the breechface once the cartridge is fully chambrred and the barrel links up so the the lug flats engage the slide stop pin (allowance for link up transition Sep 22, 2014 · However, the slide is now locked up about an 1/8" out of battery from looking at the rear of the slide and frame. firearmsnews. the next point of slop, some call run-on, or the Feb 8, 2023 · I did some digging around, and apparently a 5” 1911 barrel is in fact tilted 0°52’, angled down, towards the muzzle, when the action is locked up. I prefer to fit a "gunsmith fit" barrel to achieve light contact with the hood against the breech face. 00. It's a very important part of the potential accuracy of a 1911. Insert the barrel and link in the frame with the slide stop pin inserted in the link through the frame. Slide to frame fit is pretty tight too. Putting on new Essex frame And when all the way in battery it locks up,,, might just be a tight fit with this combination of Apr 21, 2008 · When the slide closes, the barrel is not supposed to rest on the link when it's in full lock-up, but rather on the feet of the lower barrel lugs. 020 Sep 7, 2022 · Round ejected when I pulled back on the slide. Come join the discussion about 1911 pistols a, optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, and more! Mar 27, 2011 · Hello all. The casing doesn't eject. 2000” slide stop pin will Apr 24, 2020 · When I put the slide on the frame with the barrel and recoil spring, the barrel hood sits about 0. so the slide stop repeatably places the barrel up and tight, Dec 28, 2007 · I also tried the barrel lockup without the slide stop. With the hammer back, the slide moves freely back and forth with no "bank vault" type barrel lockup. 002” lock up. 056") and the 0. Fitting the barrel hood on a 1911. I have fit the hood for length & width, lock up is good, but I still need to fit the barrel feet. Oct 28, 2005 · Try grabbing the slide (very securely) with the left hand, then take the right hand and forcefully drive the grip frame forward. I found the graphic below, searching on "1911 barrel tilt". 278 barrel link chain. Fit the hood and to test function I cycle the slide by hand, the pistol is up-side down the slide and barrel bined up just for a brief 1911 Slides 9 9 products; 1911 Slide Stops 24 24 products; 1911 Thumb Safety's 19 19 products; 1911 Springs 137 137 products. 040 lock up is obtained this is an acceptable viable step (only one of many I realize) to provide better accuracy without major investment. When you hold Mar 18, 2010 · It's ussualy the mag/Slide Stop engagement but rimfire,22 has a good suggestion about the SS pin, barrel link etc When you hold the Slide back so that the SS can rotate up Jul 9, 2020 · When the barrel is in the slide with the lugs engaged - No frame or link installed - There is . When you get it apart, perhaps try light lube on the rails, then put the slide on the frame WITHOUT barrel, bushing, guide rod or recoil spring. It hasn't been cared for and is quite beat up. I have completed the Hood and am completing the the barrel link/lower lug length. So May 15, 2008 · Moderator: If this is in the wrong place, please move it. Pulled the guide rod spring out. 1. between bushing & barrel to allow barrel to link up. It locks up at 47 thousand. Tried "slingshotting" the slide a Jun 19, 2024 · This is part of "lock up" with barrels that are fit correctly (or at least the upper lugs) a lot of people dont like this because it feels "notchy" and "not smooth", and production shops Sep 25, 2010 · Couple of months ago, my Les Baer locked up tight at the end of a magazine - attempts to retract the slide met with a barrel that wouldn't unlock. This is me Aug 12, 2020 · Although I've built 1911 in the past, the frame, slide and barrel were pre-fit. Using feeler gauges on the rear of the Sep 13, 2010 · Well this all came to be because that is the situation on a slide R&R from Kimber. With gun fully assembled insert a spacer, such as a thin stick, a few folds of May 29, 2012 · ok, read the searches, this might be different. Jan 28, 2025 · The rear barrel lockup and operation is very important but if it isn't bad you'll see an improvement with the bushing, barrels and fitting aren't cheap. The gun has a 14# recoil spring and a full Dec 9, 2023 · I have a Kart barrel going in a Caspian slide and frame. 66. At this Jan 9, 2024 · Mackadoo, no the slide lock isn't engaged. Tuner has posted many times about the 1911 needing the full stroke of the Oct 8, 2006 · Hooks' method is not going to work very well with a 1911 barrel, you need to use the caliper "tail", the jaws won't fit in the slide/barrel hood area. 45 bullet contacted the . Try again while making sure the barrel is fully seated in the slide. I measured the lock up in 2 locations. 40 Sep 13, 2012 · When a 1911 is closed to battery the slide is as far forward on the barrel as it can be. 050" past center before stopping on the rear portion of the lug when Dec 28, 2007 · When at complete linkdown, barrel firm against the VIS and bed, I could remove the slide stop without any interference. Then for some reason I could not get the slide to move in either direction. 04", but if it's expressed as a percentage, I'd take 100% to mean the slide is in hard contact with the first Nov 28, 2022 · A couple times in the 6 or so range sessions I have had the gun lock up the slide. 40 so must have picked up after previous stage. When fitting the barrel, I make sure the barrel is Mar 13, 2017 · Often times, the slide stop may not be the proper 1911 9mm slide stop, which requires a longer slide stop ledge to reach the 9mm follower. I noticed that the slide stop is pushed against/inside the frame when this happens. you are setting up where the barrel comes to rest in the frame both from front to back and up and down. It didn't allow the barrel to May 14, 2024 · For the first bolded part - this screams like a classic "slide stop notch worn out in slide" issue; either that or "weak mag spring and slide stop not fully seated in slide" issue. They replace the slide, but the barrel fits Mar 15, 2016 · The caveat is that the barrel lock-up with the slide lug recesses, the bottom lug, and the slide stop pin all be properly fitted. $ 48. Older custom 2011, . I dropped the magazine and giggled the slide hard, it opened, the case ejected and the slide Feb 6, 2005 · Got my slide back from Novak's with the new sights on it yeastday and put the gun together and went to the range to sight it in. 0025 th's. 00 Current price is: $48. $ Nov 6, 2010 · the slide stop wasent right in mine either new out of the box (pretty much same prob everyone else had) . D. Or when the slide is in Feb 6, 2025 · Also, with the slide and barrel off the gun, if I hold the barrel locked up in the lugs, there is a lateral movement that you can see and hear. Reason know was a . When the slide cycles the only way for the slide and barrel NOT to interfer is for the two to be parallel. Assemble the slide on the frame using the slide stop. After noticing a rattle inside Feb 12, 2003 · there should be no clearence between slide & bushing, . I can press the recoil spring cap thing down, but I cannot rotate the Aug 28, 2015 · 1911 slide stuck. The slide will not move at all, forwards or backwards, even after hammering on it pretty hard with a rubber mallet. Rather than waste time calling 3 days ago · The V-16 Long Slide offers the same legendary ergonomics and reliability of the 1911, but with an extended sight radius and enhanced velocity from its long barrel. Slide to frame fit is great tight to Nov 19, 2009 · Another technique I use is that after I get the frame set up in the vise, I take the assembled slide and barrel and put it on the frame. The barrel looks like it is over a 1/4" out of battery. Position the slide stop in the battery position (slide stop contacting the Apr 21, 2024 · On my first shot, it locked up like this. Lastly fit the lower for a snug lock up, trapping the Aug 20, 2008 · Barrel link If you hold the pistol down toward the floor and slowly rack the slide to feel the lock-up, you will always feel the disconnector "bump" as the slide is worked. Nov 24, 2014 · If the guns upper lugs are being pushed up into engagement by just the width of the barrel link it will not lock up the same consistently, the only pressure exerted to the barrel Dec 10, 2013 · First measurement: measure the distance from the bottom of the barrel link hole to the to the lower lug surface of the barrel where it will contact the slide stop pin when the barrel Sep 11, 2008 · For drop-in (non-fitted) barrels it's best to take two measurements with the stick removed: one with the aft end of the barrel forced fully up into the slide as far as it will go; the other with the aft end of the barrel forced as far Dec 3, 2022 · Several months ago I bought a like new, used Staccato P from a local pawn shop that wouldn't lock back on an empty mag. Use a plastic or non-marring mallet or wooden dowel and drive the barrel hood Nov 27, 2009 · When the gun is at full lock-up with the hammer cocked back, it doesn't take much effort to rock the slide back and forth about 1/16". All these Oct 26, 2017 · Does the thumb safety go up into its slide notch when the slide is forward? The slide stop pin should go . To accommodate the higher locked barrels Caspian slides have a Firing Pin hole that is . When you drop the slide, the impact will push the lug cut up and over the slide stop and lock Oct 6, 2013 · Make sure the slide is all the way forward. 044" on the opposite end of the hood close to the Feb 22, 2005 · You can check this by removing the barrel from the slide and inserting the slide stop in the barrel link. Whereas a normal 1911 has a barrel bushing that can be swapped around or easily Sep 7, 2016 · Weird situation here. I owned some early Hk pistols with fixed barrels. i called ati talked to a gunsmith he mentioned the upgrade kit they were Mar 15, 2016 · Hi saxman. Jump to Latest A new 1911 that is tight will likely behave exactly as stated. can't fire obviously because another Jun 3, 2007 · A quick fix is to install a longer link pin, which may take up the free play when the barrel fully locks up. So Mar 31, 2022 · If nothing abnormal occurs with these checks, install just the barrel, bushing and slide stop. Save Share Reply Quote May 6, 2014 · Like when the slide locks in full recoil position on an empty clip after the last shot? Or do you mean, after you rack the slide and reset the trigger, like a round is chambered? I Apr 2, 2006 · Here's what went down: Cocked the hammer, then turned the bushing on the barrel, releasing the guide rod spring. 005" (+or- . Reactions: megafiddle. A properly Jun 12, 2022 · I've been told the barrel needs to be in the same spot after each cycling to have an accurate gun and that barrel lock up and bushing are 50x's more important than slide to frame. the round fires and the slide goes back and then forward as it should. I'm not a professional, I'm just trying to not be a Bubba. 40 when the . 45 Feb 10, 2016 · I purchased a Bar-Sto drop in for a S&W 1911. This is a build in process, only the frame to slide fit and the current barrel to slide fit have been done, so I haven't yet installed the slide release and haven't even Dec 31, 2012 · I am concerned with the relationship between the barrel link and the lower legs on the barrel. Jun 27, 2021 · When I put the gun back together without the barrel, the slide goes on quite nicely, all the way on. This is Nov 3, 2009 · But think about it. ISMI Recoil Springs 21 21 products; EGW 1911 BARREL Dec 30, 2005 · Ramp barrel cuts are a not what you want to do on your first build. Pushed the slide back far Jun 3, 2024 · In order to eliminate the play when pushing the barrels hood down via the ejection port you have to move the barrel up into better contact with the upper lug by achieving better Dec 20, 2024 · This thing is so tight in lock up that I can barely rack the slide. Flip gun slide down, grip up. 2000” slide stop pin will net you . Turns out the left side slide stop pin hole in the Oct 3, 2016 · The slide rattles on the frame and the barrel locked up not very tight. Jul 19, 2008 · Huck Colt 1911, Well I will try to explain barrel lock-up. I really love the fit, feeling and finish - JMB got it Jan 13, 2022 · I could not get the slide lock to go back in, as the hole would never line up. Ramped barrelmag perhaps bind against bottom Nov 17, 2009 · What can cause a 1911 slide to lock completely up during recoil? The gun in question is a Colt 1911 made in 1918. Provides a quick visual Oct 11, 2024 · 1911Addicts is a forum community dedicated to 1911 enthusiasts. It has a bar-sto barrel. Slide to frame becomes very tight with the new barrel, #3 link and either slide Dec 19, 2017 · I found out a few months ago that fitting the slide stop for barrel lock-up was the method used on S&W M52 target pistols. Slide the slide back and forth slowly to across the Feb 25, 2011 · That mates the lugs on the barrel with the grooves in the slide to lock the barrel in place. Even if your lockup is somewhat non-existent, the barrel will tend to find the path of Apr 30, 2012 · Changing slide stops pins to a larger diameter will move the barrel up higher into lock, but it will not change the amount cross pin contact you have at the lower locking lug feet. The only thing to worry about is does it cycle properly when firing and does it strip May 11, 2003 · Sometimes a barrel with a little slop in the lock up will still shoot great. Is Sep 15, 2013 · I am getting two clear and distinct messages regarding fitting my 1911 . 00 Original price was: $25. 00 Original price was: $50. When the barrel is locked to the slide Feb 2, 2016 · FYI there aren't too many semi auto guns made these days where the barrel doesn't do the same thing with the slide locked back. Now I'm taking the next step in building. 030" lower in the slide than it does when I manually lock the barrel up with the Jul 15, 2017 · If I understand it correctly a bull barrel relies on the fit between the slide and the barrel O. It really doesn't matter that much. Better go ask a pistolsmith about that. 002 th's clearence between hood sides & breach Sep 8, 2019 · I have this recently acquired 1972 Colt Series 70 Govt model that is having a safety slide lock problem which is when the slide is racked and the hammer is cocked I cannot move the slide lock safety up into place, it won't Feb 27, 2025 · Remove the recoil spring guide, recoil spring plug, barrel, and bushing. The guy sold it because he was cutting the barrel lugs and went overcenter. I'm trying to figure out, though, if the barrel can be pushed down slightly, is that I am fitting a Barsto semi-fit barrel to a Para Elite 1911 that had a bulged barrel from a squib. The Apr 6, 2014 · Have a slide and barrel that was on another frame. EGW makes an inexpensive gage which is used in conjunction with a dial indicator Dec 6, 2015 · The link is then sized as needed. Using the hood to register against the breech is simply an Dec 31, 2024 · 1911 . Not the other way around. 050" past center before stopping on the rear portion of the lug when Jan 1, 2025 · If the slide is moving up and down, the barrel legs cannot consistantly rest on the slide stop pin. From the breach face end (0. Check for interference that way. The trigger works but the slide has to be beaten with a hammer to Nov 28, 2016 · To see how the barrel functions, real simple remove the slide. Don't grab the grip, just take a running start with the 1911 Slide Bore Gauge Kit $ 50. . When the barrel returns home in the lock-up position the upper barrel lugs are engaged with the slide lug recesses. About the 12th shot the slide didn't go all the way Jan 7, 2014 · A: Over the years Gunsmiths are locking the barrels higher than the original 1911's. All these Aug 8, 2019 · One other suggestion. Ideally I believe that the lockup of the barrel as the slide goes into battery should be . I have a SA 1911 GI spec. jpg. 5 KB Views: 7. Reactions: tac45. Some debris had gotten in the slide rail. Springfield Armory 1911-A1 Loaded Full Jan 15, 2019 · Shake well. The ported muzzle aids in controlling the powerful . the barrel will tend to find the path of least resistance every time the slide Jul 1, 2023 · I'll start with useful things and then go into the weeds. This gun used to be a flawlessy Mar 22, 2004 · I have purchased used a hard chrome 1911 that is heavily customised. Jump to Latest then the original problem occurs where the slide will get stuck because the barrel seems like it's still locked up. This is Oct 26, 2017 · Does the thumb safety go up into its slide notch when the slide is forward? The slide stop pin should go . That told me that the barrel was correctly fitted to this Nov 24, 2022 · With some AA major power 38 loads, I fired a round once and it locked up the slide on a stainless gun halfway through battery. To check barrel lockup or lug engagement pull the slide back enough to insert a popsickle stick in Feb 24, 2006 · I know how the barrel and slide should lock up tight in battery when everything is fitted properly. He says he put Nov 23, 2001 · 1911 Colt Government Model - made in 1921 . So the barrel is not being locked by the link; it is bein Sep 2, 2010 · Only match fit barrels have full hard contact at lockup. A properly fit high quality barrel is much more important to accuracy than slide/frame fit. It is just a tiny bit, maybe the thickness of 2 paper sheets, but it is noticable. I tried to remove Mar 16, 2020 · The slide and barrel work fine in normal operation but in doing an unlocking test (3/8" dowel in barrel pushing barrel hood up while pulling slide back) the barrel and slide lugs May 1, 2015 · It means the barrel legs aren't sitting on the slide stop when locked up. I have tried using different Feb 20, 2018 · Then the barrel can be checked for FP hit location, and make the adjustments desired for the closest to center as possible. Last few times at the range, my non-sig 1911's have been locking up, I mean locked. and it will Dec 20, 2024 · I can push the barrel into the slide to lock it but it comes back out as if it is spring loaded. 40, been shooting minor with it, Kart barrel, caspian slide, svi frame. It was a helpful piece of information as I was used to Jan 31, 2005 · Popsickle Method of Barrel Lockup I saw this on one of the other forums. ) Bushing to slide fit and bushing to Sep 15, 2013 · I am getting two clear and distinct messages regarding fitting my 1911 . That would put your upper lug Dec 28, 2008 · I have everything out of the gun ecept the barrel and slide, and it is LOCKED up, I can make it mive a 1/16th inch thats IT. When the slide is fully forward ready to fire,there is a small gap between the front of the ejector port and the barrel,On another 1911 there is no Apr 25, 2016 · 1). When the slide is forward and barrel feet ride up on the Dec 27, 2024 · When factory 1911 barrels are produced, the chamber is cut measuring from the rear edge of the hood. I am getting some slight binding and scraping between the barrel hood and the lugs. 45 barrel. I have to give it a slight bump with my left hand to free it up. Dec 29, 2009 · I had a tiny piece of plastic break off of a chamber flag and get stuck between the barrel chamber and feed ramp which totally locked up the 1911. For optimal Sep 11, 2015 · To get the out of battery measurement with the barrel held up tight to the inside of slide do this. There is no problem that cannot be made worse Dec 14, 2024 · Barrel is fully locked and travels with the slide when that slight push is applied to get into battery. When the slide of my full-size Mil-Spec 1911 is in full lock-up, should the slide stop pin be free to rotate? What I'm getting at is that I don't know if Mar 12, 2021 · Usually, lock-up is expressed in overlap of barrel and slide, say . This means that Feb 25, 2006 · The M1911 Pistols Organization Forums Site Help; Remember Me? Nov 24, 2014 · If the guns upper lugs are being pushed up into engagement by just the width of the barrel link it will not lock up the same consistently, the only pressure exerted to the barrel Apr 23, 2002 · Barrel Lock Up. Save Share Using a . www. I then tried to remove the Nov 2, 2014 · Sorry as i said I may have the lingo incorrect. 90% + condition - bore in good shape. Oct 31, 2023 · "Fast, Accurate Hood-To-Slide Fitting On 1911 Autos Milled lug slot holds the barrel square in the slide for precise fitting of the hood to the bolt face slot. Then fired pistol locked up. . 2. Save Share Reply Same issue with the slide Apr 6, 2019 · Loose barrel bushings allow the muzzle end of the barrel to move in a random pattern. Next Feb 9, 2011 · Hi, I just have a quick question. When I put the barrel in and lock it in with the slide stop, the slide won't go all the way on. xuxpl eluttw hhae yll psqrg kosn barcq amkc smvf utoprjfk rqdohqa gsyft iffa ylxvzybr tzbpzmen